Only a sewer would appreciate how a day spent with three middle-aged women jumping in and out of trail garments and running around someone's basement in their underwear was a most excellent day. It all felt close enough however that we decided to explore the possibility of operator error and devote a day to measuring, sewing slopers, and critiquing each other. None of us have been perfectly happy with what we have been able to produce with this program. Of course owning expensive and powerful pattern design software does not remove a sewer's need for nearly every new pattern released - but the need for some TNT basics remains. Like me they bought it and like me thought that they now had a shortcut to fitting. On Wednesday I took a day and spent it with two friends who have PMB version 5.